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	<title>Comments on: Introducing Wikipedia Editor Satisfaction Index</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/02/introducing-wikipedia-editor-satisfaction-index/comment-page-1/#comment-17740</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear J,

according to the report, the methodology is described thus:

&quot;The survey was conducted online on all Wikipedia language sites in the last week of April. Using the help of the community, the survey was translated into 21 languages beyond English, including: Chinese (traditional, Hong Kong), Chinese (simplified), Serbian, Russian, Portuguese, Polish, Dutch, Macedonian, Italian, Hungarian, Croatian, Hebrew, French, Finnish, Spanish, German, Danish, Welsh, Catalan, Bulgarian and Arabic. The survey was conducted in native languages for which translations were available, and for the remainder of Wikipedia language projects the survey was available in English.

The survey was limited to only registered Wikipedia users, and each user saw a link to the survey only once. This ensured that all users (editors) had an equal probability of participating in the survey, and the survey was not biased towards those editors who edit more frequently. We had to set a cookie within the Central Notice banner for the survey to guarantee that it would only show up once per user. The foundation used an open source survey tool, Lime Survey, to field the survey, and the survey was hosted by the foundation. Survey participants also had the option of saving the survey and taking it later.

The survey ran for seven days on the website, with a total of 31,699 views of the banner invitation. By the end of the week, we had collected a total of 8,193 responses to the survey. After data cleaning, which involved removing instances of vandalism, deleting unfinished surveys, etc. we had a total of 5,073 responses.&quot;

Hope this answers your query in your first paragraph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear J,</p>
<p>according to the report, the methodology is described thus:</p>
<p>&#8220;The survey was conducted online on all Wikipedia language sites in the last week of April. Using the help of the community, the survey was translated into 21 languages beyond English, including: Chinese (traditional, Hong Kong), Chinese (simplified), Serbian, Russian, Portuguese, Polish, Dutch, Macedonian, Italian, Hungarian, Croatian, Hebrew, French, Finnish, Spanish, German, Danish, Welsh, Catalan, Bulgarian and Arabic. The survey was conducted in native languages for which translations were available, and for the remainder of Wikipedia language projects the survey was available in English.</p>
<p>The survey was limited to only registered Wikipedia users, and each user saw a link to the survey only once. This ensured that all users (editors) had an equal probability of participating in the survey, and the survey was not biased towards those editors who edit more frequently. We had to set a cookie within the Central Notice banner for the survey to guarantee that it would only show up once per user. The foundation used an open source survey tool, Lime Survey, to field the survey, and the survey was hosted by the foundation. Survey participants also had the option of saving the survey and taking it later.</p>
<p>The survey ran for seven days on the website, with a total of 31,699 views of the banner invitation. By the end of the week, we had collected a total of 8,193 responses to the survey. After data cleaning, which involved removing instances of vandalism, deleting unfinished surveys, etc. we had a total of 5,073 responses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope this answers your query in your first paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/02/introducing-wikipedia-editor-satisfaction-index/comment-page-1/#comment-17731</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How did you select the members of your sample? I hope you chose editors of a variety of tenure lengths. Otherwise, your results will be skewed toward the positive side (and it will probably be skewed toward the positive even if you did choose a variety of tenure lengths); those who are dissatisfied with Wikipedia tend to become inactive or leave, so they might not receive an invitation to your survey, and their experience may be overlooked. Did you contact any editors who have been inactive or left Wikipedia?

You might also investigate the unyielding attachment to the status quo. I&#039;ve left Wikipedia twice; both resignations were a result of attitude from other editors, but the second was also influenced by Wikipedians&#039; stringent refusals to change. I suggested positive changes -- these were supported by some other editors -- but my suggestions were ultimately overridden simply because of Wikipedia&#039;s contrary precedent.

I understand that Wikipedia has sort of an alternative policy on governance and decision making, but I think this is something that should be reconsidered. I have strong professional and educational credentials in the area where I suggested change, but a group of editors who have zero relevant credentials overthrew my proposition. 

And, on a side note, I really hate the &quot;ignore all rules&quot; rule. That is the epitome of a mixed message, and mixed messages inspire chaos in any sort of governing body.

That&#039;s a little bit of a vent session mixed with constructive criticism, but I appreciate that you&#039;re trying to improve Wikipedia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you select the members of your sample? I hope you chose editors of a variety of tenure lengths. Otherwise, your results will be skewed toward the positive side (and it will probably be skewed toward the positive even if you did choose a variety of tenure lengths); those who are dissatisfied with Wikipedia tend to become inactive or leave, so they might not receive an invitation to your survey, and their experience may be overlooked. Did you contact any editors who have been inactive or left Wikipedia?</p>
<p>You might also investigate the unyielding attachment to the status quo. I&#8217;ve left Wikipedia twice; both resignations were a result of attitude from other editors, but the second was also influenced by Wikipedians&#8217; stringent refusals to change. I suggested positive changes &#8212; these were supported by some other editors &#8212; but my suggestions were ultimately overridden simply because of Wikipedia&#8217;s contrary precedent.</p>
<p>I understand that Wikipedia has sort of an alternative policy on governance and decision making, but I think this is something that should be reconsidered. I have strong professional and educational credentials in the area where I suggested change, but a group of editors who have zero relevant credentials overthrew my proposition. </p>
<p>And, on a side note, I really hate the &#8220;ignore all rules&#8221; rule. That is the epitome of a mixed message, and mixed messages inspire chaos in any sort of governing body.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a little bit of a vent session mixed with constructive criticism, but I appreciate that you&#8217;re trying to improve Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/02/introducing-wikipedia-editor-satisfaction-index/comment-page-1/#comment-17519</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 01:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Removing the default edit summary text for &quot;undo&quot; and similar actions would help a great deal.  Unexplained reverts are poison to collaboration, and most editors wouldn&#039;t leave the edit summary blank even though they won&#039;t modify default undo summary text. Use tags from the filter rules instead of wasting the edit summary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Removing the default edit summary text for &#8220;undo&#8221; and similar actions would help a great deal.  Unexplained reverts are poison to collaboration, and most editors wouldn&#8217;t leave the edit summary blank even though they won&#8217;t modify default undo summary text. Use tags from the filter rules instead of wasting the edit summary.</p>
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